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Post subject: Am I being paranoid...?
 Posted: May 28, 2006 - 02:50 AM
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Joined: Mar 12, 2006
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Location: Canada
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Hi guys,
I've just installed 2006 RC4. Very cool. (Funny "Easter" wallpaper, too, Kano---heh!)
Now I'd like to do the updates---but as usual, that means I must connect to the Net with no firewall, run apt-get update, wait for it to finish, then apt-get a firewall (e.g. Firestarter) and its dependencies. That always seems like a long time to be connected with an unprotected system.
I guess I could create a dummy (non-root) account, do that stuff, then delete the account in case it was compromised... But maybe I'm being paranoid? (After all, it's not Windows.)
Finally, is there a reason the Kanotix install doesn't include a firewall, like the live CD? Wouldn't that be a lot easier? (More advanced users could uninstall it and do their own config, of course.)
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Post subject: RE: Am I being paranoid...?
Posted: May 28, 2006 - 03:13 AM
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| apt-get install firestarter |
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Post subject: RE: Am I being paranoid...?
Posted: May 29, 2006 - 06:48 AM
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Location: Stuttgart / Kulmbach
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normally i think no ports are open, so you're not in danger  |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Am I being paranoid...?
Posted: May 30, 2006 - 12:00 AM
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ekp > apt-get install firestarter
Yes, that's the command, and of course it must be issued as root. But you must be connected to the Net, right? That's my point.
John > normally i think no ports are open, so you're not in danger
If no ports are open, how can you access the Net? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Am I being paranoid...?
Posted: May 30, 2006 - 02:58 AM
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Location: Port Angeles, Wa. USA
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notwithstanding the fact that I'm a total idiot, I haven't run a firewall for years until recently. (Firestarter) I don't think most evil-doers aim at linux, although like I say, I don't know that much. Never had a problem. So why am I even posting? I guess to show the opposite end of the paranoia spectrum.
"Now I'd like to do the updates---but as usual, that means I must connect to the Net with no firewall, run apt-get update, wait for it to finish, then apt-get a firewall (e.g. Firestarter) and its dependencies. That always seems like a long time to be connected with an unprotected system."
A long time? That reminds me of the horse**** being sold by my government to keep citizens in a state of fear so they can continue to shovel their propaganda down the throats of gullible citizens. Life is too short to live in a state of fear about anything. What's gonna happen is gonna happen, so it would be in the of best interest of everyone to just backhand the bogeyman & go fer it. Hey! that sounds like a song title to me... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Am I being paranoid...?
Posted: May 30, 2006 - 09:32 AM
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Location: Waliser Märze
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2radical wrote:
"Now I'd like to do the updates---but as usual, that means I must connect to the Net with no firewall..
I don,t know what isp you have but easiest way with DSL is using a router with integral firewall, I haven't had a firewall on my pc for years.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Am I being paranoid...?
Posted: Jun 02, 2006 - 06:52 AM
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Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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I put firewalls in the same category as screensavers and mouse odometers: useless stuff. If you don't run a server you don't need a firewall; and if you serve files you have to forward the port to your firewall anyway, so what's the point?
Having said that, I do use a firewall in Windows. Not to block incoming packets, but to block OUTGOING ones, like shareware programs calling home to "check for updates" (free in Windows has a different meaning than free in Linux).
So, unless you run Windows, the answer to your question is probably yes. |
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