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					| Titel: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 30.12.2014, 14:08 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | To me this system change sounds rather bad, but then I'm not exactly technical. Seems to be on the verge of creating a fork of Debian.
 
 And a lot of complaints about coding as well as design (Linus Torvalds calls some of the hacks 'insane').
 
 Is this seen as a potential problem for Kanotix?
 
 Right now I suppose the KDE version of Kanotix is a petty good systemd alternative.
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					| Titel: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 30.12.2014, 15:17 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Kanotix Spitfire uses systemd since several months. It is created every night. |  
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					| Titel: RE: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 30.12.2014, 17:04 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Thanks. I hope the controversy is overblown. Will check out Spitfire. |  
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					| Titel: RE: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 07.10.2015, 06:40 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Is there a way to use sysinitV in Kanotix? I'm not a huge fan of systemd, but I like kanotix. I use it as my main OS.
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					| Titel: Re: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 08.10.2015, 10:33 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | coyotl hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
To me this system change sounds rather bad, but then I'm not exactly technical.
Seems to be on the verge of creating a fork of Debian.
 
 And a lot of complaints about coding as well as design (Linus Torvalds calls some of the hacks 'insane').
 
 Is this seen as a potential problem for Kanotix?
 
 Right now I suppose the KDE version of Kanotix is a petty good systemd alternative.
 
 That's already started: the debian fork without systemd is called Devuan.
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					| Titel: Re: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 08.10.2015, 12:10 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Dragenfire used sysvinit, Spitfire uses systemd, usually you do not even notice that is is used. |  
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					| Titel: RE: Re: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 08.10.2015, 16:59 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | For general user, systemd or sysvinit doesn't make any difference; but for server admins...sysvinit is much more easier to work with. I'm staying with Dragonfire.
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					| Titel: RE: Re: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 08.10.2015, 22:08 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | What do you configure with sysvinit that you can not do with systemd? |  
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					| Titel: RE: Re: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 10.10.2015, 11:25 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | It's the debugging part of a problem a bit difficult, that's all. But, I'm slowly getting the hang of it. |  
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					| Titel: RE: Re: systemd, opinion of the Kanotix team?  Verfasst am: 13.01.2017, 21:54 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Devuan has come a long way now, easiest way to install it seems to be Refracta as that is a proper live distro. With LXDE + slim login manager this is a perfect end user distro on my old netbook (eee 1000H)
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