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Titel: System Freezing!
 Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 19:24 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 09. Jun 2005
Beiträge: 120
Wohnort: Bromsgrove, UK
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Hello folks,
recently my 2005-04 system (running the 2.6.16 kernel) has started to 'freeze' for no reason. By freeze, I mean that the screen responds to neither the keyboard or mouse, or the placing of a CD in the drive etc. I have been able to soft-reset to correct the problem, but now that doesn't seem to do the trick.
I have been dist-upgrading daily for the last few weeks without any problems. In fact the only issue that I have seen recently is a crash error on shutdown from kwallettmanager.
I am considering removing all of my data and doing a complete re-install, but if anyone has a better idea, then I'd appreciate it! |
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Titel: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 20:21 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 22. Mar 2006
Beiträge: 82
Wohnort: dayton, oh usa
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Run some diagnostics first, including temperature tests.
May want to try running off the live CD for awhile.
Also, if you have some USB devices, try plugging into different ports
Check the logs in /var/log and dmesg
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Titel: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 21:07 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 09. Jan 2006
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| remove or better don't use kwallet. |
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Titel: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 21:35 Uhr
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I had problems with smp-enabled kernels. Perhaps try a uniprocessor kernel?
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Titel: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 22:02 Uhr
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Wohnort: Bromsgrove, UK
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| The same thing just happened when running from the live CD |
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Titel: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 22:23 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 03. Mai 2005
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Wohnort: out there somewhere
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hmm, could be heat, how old is the harddrive ?, any clicking noises before it freezes ?
EDIT: happens on cd too huh, heat, clean the dustbunnies  could be ram going bad |
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Titel: Re: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 22:25 Uhr
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Titel: RE: Re: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 20.06.2006, 23:13 Uhr
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If it's happening on the livecd it's a hardware issue, as people are suggesting.
try running a hard drive test utility, and run memtest, which is an advanced option in grub.
If it passes both of these tests, then your mobo or cpu might be dying. Or your power supply might be dying, it's hard to pinpoint it. |
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Titel: RE: Re: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 21.06.2006, 03:46 Uhr
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Titel: RE: Re: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 21.06.2006, 17:00 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 09. Jun 2005
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Wohnort: Bromsgrove, UK
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I dusted first - it was quite a state!
CPU now running 10 degrees cooler, so I'll try that first.
Thanks for the other suggestions - I have noted them in case of further problems. |
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Titel: Re: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 21.06.2006, 18:45 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 12. Mar 2004
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Wohnort: Paris-France
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Crust hat folgendes geschrieben::
I had problems with smp-enabled kernels. Perhaps try a uniprocessor kernel?
-Crust
Yep, me too, sounds exactly the same just freezes but I can ssh in and kill it but the CPU is running overtime ... |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 21.06.2006, 19:06 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 20. Okt 2005
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Gowater,
What CPU do you have?
I have an Athlon 64 mobile 3000+
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 21.06.2006, 19:28 Uhr
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By one more time reading the posts, could also be a timing problem with ram, and caching. Some of the AMD-64 has a small bug with one status-register inside the CPU. Evrey time the CPU has used a lot of FPU with timesatmping, the freeze can occure.
I self got such a CPU. Normal integer calc's does not freeze, but some progs, using this Reg.(flag TC changed) do Freeze. Especialy when timestamping is needed. Kwallet, some Network or debug tools need this Register.
May be the corrected Kwallet does not need this or the older one. |
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Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 23.06.2006, 11:42 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 12. Mar 2004
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Wohnort: Paris-France
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Crust hat folgendes geschrieben::
Gowater,
What CPU do you have?
I have an Athlon 64 mobile 3000+
-Crust
sl@Kanotix32:~/.gtk-gnutella$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 12
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 2000.197
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow ts fid vid ttp
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Hardware or overheating problem?
Verfasst am: 23.06.2006, 16:27 Uhr
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Anmeldung: 20. Okt 2005
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Thanks,
So we have similar processors.
-Crust |
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